I made a request to the Queens printer regarding the information on the face of a birth certificate. Here is the response.

Thank you for your inquiry.
We did not receive your original e-mail.

The Queen's Printer for Ontario holds copyright over all works prepared by or for the Crown, including the birth certificate.  While copyright does not apply to individual facts (data), it does apply to the design of the form and compilations of information such as the birth certificate, both with and without information entered.   Additionally, logos or other symbols are protected by copyright and/or trademark laws.

Copyright falls under federal law.  The web site of the Canadian Intellectual Property Office ( contains extensive information relating to copyright and trademarks.

Yours truly

Carolyn Gray

Senior Copyright Adviser,
ServiceOntario Publications

On another note, this is Notice that the Pay it Forward program as we know it MAY end as of Sunday February 13 2011 as I will not be here after that day to receive mail prior to the 16th. Any agreements received after that date MAY be returned. How the pay it forward program will function after the meeting I cannot say. I did say previously that no one is being shut out and it may be that anyone interested would have to contact the lawyer directly. I know not the future. I will say that my function will likely change. What the divine has planned for me I cannot say but I feel my energy will be focused more on helping myself and others come to a greater awareness of and be at peace. I do not see a way out of the box except by peace. Hence I accepted the offer to help build and era of love and peace. If not us, who? How does claiming titles to things, agent bashing, system bashing, pope bashing, bank bashing, help in that regard?

I sense that the only or main reason we face grief is because we attract it, or, that it is we do not see the good/divine in everything we face that we receive other than good or
negativity. All are one. In other words, when I have peace inside I have peace outside, the me in the mirror. As far as I can tell that is what this whole thing comes down to. Once one has that inner peace one then knows what he has to do to make peace with the system. Treat others as you would like to be treated never meant so much for me as it does now, for that other is me. In making peace I am making peace with myself since all are one. If I am negative then other me is negative and I have myself stuck fighting not what is outside of me (the system, bank, cop, court, government) but me. How can I ever win that battle with myself except to come to know that is what I am doing and make peace; love myself?

I feel this is what is happening to everyone; we are not fighting the system, judge, court, law, cop, agent, but self. ALL IS ONE. As per the movie Revolver, the last place we will look is at self as the solution. So many continue to focus on that what is outside of them, in the mirror, as the cause of their situation.

Are you going to brow beat an agent? Do you know he is you? All are one. Are you going to make accusations? Do you know you'd be accusing yourself? Are you going to withhold energy? Do you know you'd be withholding from yourself? This i believe is the loop we are in.

I have offered the Pay it Forward program to almost everyone who partook in the Giver program of 2007. I am stunned that so few accepted even though for them the fee is waived. If there are any Givers I have not contacted who may be interested let me know and I will confirm you are a Giver and send you the information to join pay it forward if you so choose.

So we are clear, the pay it forward program will not be as it is now after the 16th. If the lawyer requires funding to do what must needs be done, everyone not already in the program will be given an opportunity to pitch in.

On another note, I rec'd word from Wendy that a bailiff came to evict, but, and without getting into more detail, she is still in the home. It seems, and I have yet to confirm this, that she made peace with the system and has been accepted as a peaceful inhabitant. So far anyway. What I can say is she did not make any claims and that two ladies spoke with her prior to the bailiff coming who were from the Office of the Public Guardian. Something about 'vulnerable persons'. The bailiff appeared on a previous occasions and
suggested a mental evaluation, which, Wendy did not resist or say, I am not crazy, I do not need such an evaluation, fuck you; she accepted; hence the ladies showed up. I shared her audio recordings and they are posted on the blog site.

We are all vulnerable in the sense that the system is a big machine and has an advantage over us and we are vulnerable to attack as if believed to be the name/claimants /owners. I am not saying you should contact the Office of the Public Guardian and Trustee. Wendy did not do that it was offered. I think when we express a sincere desire to be at peace with the system, make no claims, clear up a mistake, that protection for those will kick in. Peaceful inhabitants are of no concern to the military forces or public. It is
the belligerents (resistance) they are concerned with. Remember, the military forces exist because we people are not at peace. If you want to make claims or demands by parol or on paper you are considered belligerent, or, not working for the greater good of the family, the one. All are one and that one is the family I am talking about here. Even hidden-hand said the duty is to the family. You may have thought some special family and you are correct, but that family is the one, the all. The head, the one infinite creator.

And I did share what happened when a man did claim and reserve all rights in the name while making a first appearance in court. They put on a show for the public but the matter was dismissed. Most likely because they did not want to respond, it is not your name to claim. That would have revealed that the name is not who you are. Sometimes it is in the public interest to let go and give the man what he wants. I also shared what happened to a man who went the opposite direction. Someone else has paid the rent since. For me it is simple. I am not, as supported by legislation, VB, therefore; no one can point to my body and say; he is liable. In that sense I am indemnified as possessor of the corresponding BC.

If you want to claim the name as your name I do not see how that benefits or helps the family, the one. To me anyone doing that is saying, I am on my own. You want to own you are on your own. To give you an example. Let us say you are able to claim full title to a car. Do you think the state is going to allow you to use that car on the roads. Who is going to be liable for any damage to the public? If you say the state has that obligation after claiming all titles to what you think is yours, then it has it via our use of the BC. I think the state would be more inclined to support/indemnify those that support/love it through the name, having come to peace, rather than those who wish to be on their own. Time will tell I suppose.

I accept the BC is a form of indemnification as i have been privy to a few instances where that can be the only conclusion. In that sense, the divine has provided us the tool via
government that we may use it one of two ways; to serve self or other self. Claiming title to the name or property is saying, I serve self is what i get out of that thinking. How it is we will come to unity if we all claim this that and the other thing is MINE? Imagine 7 billion people all claiming as mine. We'd have arm-and-gettem. Or, image everyone in your home adopted the mine attitude, claiming title to this that and the other thing; all would be fighting each other for what, STUFF.
No peaceful inhabitants here.

It is my understanding that it is the mine attitude that got us in this mess going back long ago. Read Babylonia Woe. And if that be the consciousness or teaching what will change? Acts 4:32 to 5:4. We either share in common or own individually and if the latter, the stage is set for war. War amongst ourselves because now the coveting comes into play, therefore, we must know and be peace first and foremost as the focus. But to place claiming things/titles as mine as the top priority and nothing in my estimation will change for that is where we are now.

There may be Canon laws but there are also laws of the Universe. This simplest of which is, love thy neighbor as thyself. All are one thus nothing to claim but the letting go of

A Latin slogan in the court here in Cobourg says, shame on he that thinks evil of it.

That says it all in my view. All are one so who put those words on that plaque. Man or the one infinite creator?

We have the choice to react negatively or to accept and ponder and see the real purpose behind events. To learn and grow, to cease being the judge; to be at peace.

I do not claim to be a wise man for it surely means I do not know.

Nuff said

I love you

RE: Public


From Lee

By the term the public, is meant the whole body politic, or all the citizens of the state; sometimes it signifies the inhabitants of a particular place; as, the New York public. A distinction has been made between the terms public and general, they are sometimes used as synonymous. The former term is applied strictly to that which concerns all the citizens and every member of the state; while the latter includes a lesser, though still a large portion of the community.

When the public interests and its rights conflict with those of an individual, the latter must yield. If, for example, a road is required for public convenience, and in its course it passes on the ground occupied by a house, the latter must be torn down, however valuable it may be to the owner. In such a case both law and justice require that the owner shall be fully indemnified.

A fictitious legal entity/person which has rights and duties independent of the rights and duties of real persons and which is legally authorized to act in its own name through duly appointed agents. It is owned by shareholders. Usually created under the authority of state law.

An aggregate corporation is an ideal body, created by law, composed of individuals united under a common name, the members of which succeed each other, so that the body continues the same notwithstanding the changes of the individuals who compose it, and which for certain purposes is considered as a natural person.

A corporation, or body politic, or body incorporate, is a collection of many; individuals united in one body, under a special denomination, having perpetual succession under an artificial form, and vested by the policy of the law with a capacity of acting in several respects as an individual, particularly of taking and granting property, contracting obligations and of suing and being sued; of enjoying privileges and immunities in common and of exercising a variety of political rights, more or less extensive, according to the design of its institution or the powers conferred upon it, either at the time of its creation or at any subsequent period of its existence.

Now, go back to what Judi, deputy registrar general, said.  We do not register people, we register events (and information associated with said events).  Anything registered is said to be "registered in the public", which by extension from the above definitions can be said to be registered in the body politic.  People are not registered in the public, the name is registered in the public.  Therefore it is the name that is an individual memeber of Read the rest of this entry



You may have heard of the Truth and Reconciliation thing between government/catholic church and the native peoples.

It is in regards of what the church blessed by the government did in beating the Indian out of the Indian years back.

The purpose of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission is to make monetary amends for what was done. A form of repentance, albeit money cannot undo what was done.

I was told that what caused the Truth and Reconciliation to come about was the potential for thousands and thousand of claims against the church and government by those affected by what the church and government had done. Rather than face these claims through the Courts the Truth and Reconciliation Commission was established.

Point here is it was the number of potential claims that got the governments attention. Strength in numbers. Now relate that to us being recognized by or as the registered legal name.

For those who desire to give of themselves freely and unconditionally for the love of God and all this is great news; because the more of us that partake in Paying it Forward the greater the chances the situation of us having the legal and financial liabilities associated with the registered legal name will be resolved once and for all time.

Although it is not necessary to partake in the 'Pay it Forward' program to give of yourself freely, the folks involved in meeting with the lawyer through the church are well aware of the Truth and Reconciliation situation. The great thing is that unlike the Truth and Reconciliation, we are not Read the rest of this entry

How Everyone In Canada Is Going To Find Out

Share this blog with everyone in your email address book!

Something like this:

Subject: Important! I need your help

Body: Please join me in sharing the information in a blog called: Freedom From Debt Crucial Getting Started Now Information For All Canadians


Your Name

Government cannot pay.

Hi all

Based on an email i received this morning I feel compelled to share the following.

So long as we draw or attempt to draw on the government the government will draw on us, e.g. through taxation.

Canada has not the means to cover liabilities, taxation is evidence of that since taxes pays the interest to the holders of government bonds. In other words, Canada cannot make the interest payments because Canada has no money, is insolvent/bankrupt. Whatever money it does get it gets through taxation and other revenue generating methods, all in the form of taxes, therefore; for a bankrupt to service a debt or take on the liabilities people think it should take on, the bankrupt has no place to turn but the people. Why so? Because a bankrupt cannot pay and we are the source of credit as evidence by personal income tax collections. There is no other source.

In short, a reason for income taxes is Read the rest of this entry

Suggestion To The Government of Canada

Dear Member of Parliament,

As you may or may not know, the government of Canada is taking suggestions on how to improve the financial system. Enclosed is our suggestion that has been forwarded to the email address where the suggestions are to be sent; finlegis(Replace this parenthesis with the @ sign) We urge you to study it carefully since the suggestion is based in part on comments made by the House of Commons Standing Committee on Banking and Commerce, 1939.

Dear Honourable Minister of Finance,

The following is a suggestion in response to an article in the Toronto Sun newspapers regarding the governments request for suggestions to improve the banking/financial system. The attachment contains the suggestion in French and English. In addition to the suggestion offered herein is this from the Standing Committee on Banking and Commerce; March 24, 1939 at page 394;

“Will you tell me why the government with power to create money should give that power away to a private monopoly and then borrow that which parliament can create itself back at interest to the point of national bankruptcy, because, if we cannot finance the things that are necessary it means that this nation cannot meet its current obligations”. “Why should a government with the power to create money borrow that money at interest?” Mr Towers, “Now, if parliament wants to change the form of operating the banking system, then certainly that is within the power of parliament”.

We think that the facts and evidence speak for themselves as to why the ship Canada and the people are floundering in debt and will continue to flounder until the ship sinks taking us all with her, unless the rules are changed. It is not our desire to pursue a class action suit but neither is it our desire to see the good ship Canada and the people suffer needlessly.

If you wish to discuss this further my contact particulars follow.

Thank you

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TO: Minister of Finance Canada (By mail and e-mail)

COPIED TO: All Members of Parliament (By e-mail only)

September 23, 2010

Dear Sir:

Re: Pending Class Action lawsuit for breach of duty, et al

The People v. the federal government/Crown

We are in the process of investigating and determining the propriety of launching a class-action lawsuit as captioned. However, we noticed an article in the Toronto Sun wherein the government is soliciting suggestions on how to improve the financial system and thought it prudent to make a suggestion and submit it to, finlegis(Replace this parenthesis with the @ sign)">finlegis(Replace this parenthesis with the @ sign)

We begin this letter with the following quotes from members of the House of Commons Standing Committee on Banking and Commerce, meeting in 1939;

“It is absurd to say that our country can issue $30,000,000 in bonds and not $30,000,000 in currency. Both are promises to pay; but one promise fattens the usurer and the other helps the people”, and;

“It is the people who constitute the basis of government credit. Why then cannot the people have the benefit of their own gilt-edged credit by receiving non-interest bearing currency, instead of the bankers receiving
the benefit of the people’s credit in interest bearing bonds?”

“Income taxes pay the interest to the bondholders”.

Surely you are well aware that the interest payment obligation attached to the creation of money does not exist and of the inevitable consequences of having to pay back more money than was created.

We men and women did not come to this world to labour under a monetary system that fattens usurers at our expense, or be held as debtors, or to support absurdities, or to do nothing as our brothers and sisters and country suffer hopelessness because of a monetary system that, as it is, benefits and fattens the usurer (moneychanger/banker).

The people are the real producers of all wealth in the country and who constitute the basis of all government credit, so why should, do, we not benefit from our own gilt-edged credit by receiving non-interest bearing currency? We hereby give notice that we claim our credit and right to the benefit of it.

Does the government not have a responsibility to the people, those who empower it and who constitute the basis of government credit, first and foremost? The Prime Minister must think so when he stated in an article on the Foreign Affairs website, “The first duty of government is to protect its citizens.”

What is the government going to do about this? Is it the policy of the government, the elected, to allow this absurdity to continue – bleeding the people and business to death (debt) in order to fatten the usurer (bondholders), or is the government going to protect and help the people?

If we do not hear from you within 10 days we shall proceed with our planned class-action lawsuit.


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Cher député.

Comme vous le savez probablement, le gouvernement du Canada a demandé et reçoit des suggestions actuellement pour améliorer le système financier. Veuillez trouver ci-après la suggestion d’amélioration que nous avons fait parvenir à l’adresse courriel indiquée dans sa demande, soit finlegis(Replace this parenthesis with the @ sign)">finlegis(Replace this parenthesis with the @ sign)

Nous vous enjoignons de l’étudier attentivement car elle a été conçue, entre autres, à partir de quelques commentaires exprimés par le Comité permanent sur les banques et le commerce de la Chambre des communes, 1939.

Honorable Ministre des finances.

Veuillez trouver ci-joint notre suggestion en réponse à votre demande parue dans les journaux de septembre 2010 de vous faire parvenir des propositions pour améliorer le système bancaire/financier. Notre document vous propose notre suggestion en anglais et en français.

De plus, voici ce que proposait le Comité permanent sur les banques et le commerce en 1939, p.394.

“Pourquoi donc un gouvernement qui a le pouvoir de créer de l’argent emprunterait-il cet argent avec intérêts?”

M. Towers: “Maintenant, si le parlement veut changer la façon d’opérer le système bancaire, alors c’est certainement à l’intérieur de ses prérogatives de le faire.”.

À moins que les règles ne changent, que le bateau « Canada » et que le peuple soit empêtré dans les dettes et qu’il continuera de l’être jusqu’au naufrage nous emportant tous avec lui, nous apparaît évident. Les faits parlent d’eux mêmes. Nous ne voulons pas vraiment intenter une poursuite de type « class action ». Nous ne voulons pas non plus que le bateau « Canada » et le bon peuple continuent de souffrir inutilement.

Si vous voulez en discuter plus en profondeur, veuillez me contacter selon ces coordonnées.


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À : Ministre des Finances du Canada
Copie conforme à: Tous les membres du Parlement

23 septembre 2010


OBJET: Action collective en cours pour « manquement au devoir ».
Le peuple v. Le Gouvernement fédéral/ La Couronne.

Nous étions en train de nous renseigner pour déterminer s’il était opportun et approprié de lancer une action collective tel qu’énoncé en objet lorsque, par hasard, nous avons remarqué, dans le Toronto Sun, un article dans lequel le gouvernement sollicitait des suggestions sur la façon d’améliorer le système financier. Actuellement, il nous semble plus approprié et opportun de vous faire parvenir notre suggestion en vous la soumettant sur le site proposé finlegis(Replace this parenthesis with the @ sign)

Nous commençons ce communiqué en citant quelques propos émis par des membres du Comité permanent sur les banques et le commerce de la Chambre des communes dans sa réunion de 1939.

Première citation:

“Il est absurde de dire que notre pays peut/ veut émettre $30,000,000 en obligations (bonds) plutôt que $30,000,000 en monnaie. Les deux constituent une promesse de paiement. La première toutefois engraisse les usuriers/banquiers alors que l’autre contribue à aider les gens/le peuple.”

Deuxième citation:

“Ce sont les gens/le peuple qui constituent la source de crédit du gouvernement. Pourquoi les gens ne pourraient-ils donc pas bénéficier de leur propre crédit en recevant une monnaie libre d’intérêts plutôt que d’en faire bénéficier les usuriers/banquiers par des obligations portant intérêts?”

Troisième citation:

“Les impôts paient les intérêts aux détenteurs d’obligations.”

Certes, vous êtes bien conscients que l’obligation de payer des intérêts inhérente à la création de monnaie n’existe pas. Elle entraîne même l’inévitable conséquence d’avoir à rembourser plus d’argent qu’il en est créé.

Nous, hommes et femmes, ne sommes pas venus en ce monde pour travailler sous un système monétaire qui engraisse, à nos frais et dépens, les banquiers/usuriers ou pour soutenir des absurdités ou pour rester à ne rien faire face au spectacle désolant de voir nos frères, nos sœurs et tout le pays sombrer dans le désespoir à cause d’un système monétaire qui, dans sa formule actuelle, engraisse les banquiers/ usuriers/ monnayeurs.

Le peuple est le véritable générateur de toutes les richesses dans le pays. Il constitue ainsi la source de tout le crédit monétaire dont dispose le gouvernement. Pourquoi alors ne pourrions-nous pas bénéficier de ce crédit dont nous sommes réellement la source et recevoir une monnaie libre d’intérêts?

La responsabilité première du gouvernement n’est-elle pas, d’abord et avant tout, envers le peuple, envers ceux qui lui donnent son pouvoir et qui constituent la source du crédit monétaire? Le Premier Ministre n’exprimait-il pas cette réalité lorsqu’il a déclaré dans un article paru sur le site Web des Affaires Étrangères, que « Le premier devoir du gouvernement est de protéger ses citoyens ».

Nous vous posons alors ces questions: Qu’est ce que le gouvernement entend faire à ce sujet? Sera-ce la politique des élus du gouvernement de permettre la continuité de cette absurdité – saigner le peuple et les commerces à blanc, les entraînant ainsi dans la mort (dette – death) afin d’engraisser les usuriers/ banquiers (obligataires/détenteurs de bonds)? Le gouvernement va-t-il plutôt accomplir son devoir et protéger/ aider le peuple?

Si nous ne recevons pas de réponse à ce communiqué dans les 10 jours, nous procéderons alors à la mise en œuvre de l’action collective que nous avons préparée.


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