Standing Committee on Banking and Commerce May 9, 1939 p.394

"Will you tell me why the government with power to create money should give that power away to a private monopoly and then borrow that which parliament can create itself back at interest to the point of national bankruptcy"... "Why should a government borrow that money at interest?" Mr Towers, "Now, if parliament wants to change the form of operating the banking system, then certainly that is within the power of parliament."..."why cannot the people get the benefit of their own gilt-edged credit"?

– MINUTES – CANADA – Bank of Canada

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State Immunity Act


I hope this doc opens. If not search the net for State Immunity Act, Fed statute.

Notice the 'commercial activity' aspect and that no one in it is immune. Another good reason to serve God and not mammon/money = commercial activity.

Commercial activity

5. A foreign state is not immune from the jurisdiction of a court in any proceedings that relate to any commercial activity of the foreign state. 1980-81-82-83, c. 95, s. 5.

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With regard to the cop asking me if I am VB to which i replied, no, the name is VB, he did ask for id.

I did not get the id but that changes nothing. In other words, I could have shown him the BC which does not id me anymore than the name does and in fact, it has the word NAME on the BC followed by B, VR, and so serves to confirm what I said; I am not VB, the name is VB.

As for questions concerning the picture on the DL or passport, they do not Read the rest of this entry

Pay it Forward up-date


Although I share this email with everyone, it is directed at those who are presently partaking in the 'Pay it Forward' program and or who may participate. Saves me from sending it again so save it if you are not yet partaking but may.

I am now drafting the letter for round two of paying it forward which is addressing the fact that you are not so and so (the name), the name is so and so.

See it this way as if an agent was asking me if I am VRB. No I am not VRB the name is VRB.

The first letters make clear our desire and intent to do love; give freely and unconditionally of ourselves through the legal name. Two letters about that have been sent already, one Nov 8th and the other Nov 30th. So that aspect is done and all of you who partake in the program are party to it.

So with our desire and intent on the table, all that remains now is that you are not so and so (the name), the name is so and so. I am asking the recipients of this round two letter for their authority to say you are so and so to validate the attachment of legal liabilities, duties, responsibilities, benefits, ownership, etc., to you men and women, that are or may be recorded under the legal name.

I will not be asking for your agreement to the content of that letter as it is not, in my estimation, necessary. The call we had Dec 7th should make clear the basis of this round two letter. I will however, let you know when it has been sent.

I will also be showing these letters to Read the rest of this entry

Call is now posted


The recorded Dec 7th call is now posted at

...........I can only see to access it under Archives 'December 7 2010' Again, I am not the site administrator. The man who operates the site has costs and is asking for financial assistance.

also located at under  Pay it forward Conference call 07-12-2010


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Pay it forward Conference call recording Dec 7, 2010

Pay it forward. I am not So and So, the NAME is So and So.

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Freely given, freely received, copy and share freely - No right to reserve what belongs to All - 2010.

A shortened and edited (with music) version of the same call with thanks to "Peaceful Inhabitant" who offered it to all...

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Wake up


If we pay attention to what is going on out there it is obvious that all agents, those in cartoon land (titles) and even your friends, will identify you by name. They will say or do believe you are so and so, in my case VRB.

Some start by asking for a name and then go right on speaking to you as if you are the name so and so.

That is the basis of what is going on. The game.

So knowing that the solution is simple. I am not VRB the name is VRB.

The governing legislation (birth reg. legislation) supports that 100%. No need for anyone to make claims here because the agents are the ones making claims when they say or identify you as so and so, in my case VRB.

If an agent is to ignore what you said, I am not VRB the name is VRB, hand over the governing legislation and ask, show me in there where you get the lawful authority to say I AM VRB. There is no such authority and there never was. We, by virtue of who we are/were, egotistical self righteous fools, brought this upon ourselves.

The governing legislation is clear that Read the rest of this entry

Last nights call


Sorry folks of the events of last night not being able to hold the call as planned. We did hold a call on another number and amazingly about 60 people made it on. The call was recorded and will be posted at these two sites: or

There is no lawful authority for anyone to say you are so and so, or as said on the call, that I am VRB or Mr. B. 'Lawful authority' the key words.

Anyone saying you are so and so is making a claim and you asking for their lawful authority is calling them to prove it. So we are not making any claims here.

The fact that we are not the name means we in fact do not receive or own anything.

A BC is not and was never intended to be personal id (that is supported in the Vital Stats legislation), means it was intended that our energy/credit flow from us to the name. It also means it was never
intended we bear the legal liabilities. This is how we establish that. It is not what the law says but what it does not say and the registration of birth legislation does not say that a BC is personal id or that the baby shall be named a name. So there is nothing in legislation that supported the 'belief' you are the name so and so or that a BC is personal id. They need us to say it and or consent.

At no time did i say to say that is not my name, I said, I am not VRB, the name is VRB.

As for your picture on a driver license it does not alter the fact you are not the name on it, the name is so and so.

Look on your BC, it says name.

As for the good news we will be Read the rest of this entry

Call 1 218 486 1600 ID 845149#

Call is on now at

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My sincere apologies


I am too ticked to get into it tonight but i shall endeavor to share the good news tomorrow via email.

It is really good news for those partaking in or considering partaking in the 'Pay it Forward' program.

If you are not in the program yet, you'll wanna be.

I am sorry your time was for naught tonight. I trusted everything was in order but, such is not the case.

I love you, I am sorry, please forgive me, thank you.

Some particulars regarding tonites call.


Where to begin here?

Firstly, I said I would send out the doc titled 'To be a man'. I did that today but the email has been acting up so you may not have received it. You can get it at the blog site:

Some folks claim they cannot access the full pages after having signed up. If you do not click Remember me' when you log in you must log in each time you visit the site. If you do not log in you cannot get full access.

I have some really great and exciting news to share with you all during tonites call. Those in the pay it forward program are automatically included. The reason being those in the program desire to serve God/love which is where this starts. In other words, if ones desire and intent not be to do the love thing, unfortunately you are in it for you which runs contrary to the basis of reality. If you do desire to do the love thing, sincerely so, or you may be classed a fraud, then that is the first step to getting out of the box. You see, and I will expand on this tonite, we are already doing the love thing but not willingly in evidence. How so, you are not the name; therefore in fact you only receive if you believe or act in a manner where you are knowingly or unknowingly, claiming the name as your name or as you, same thing, claiming. We've received since the beginning of time freely, except we not believe, therefore, we have nothing to claim but rather to stop doing that which caused us to turn from that most wondrous gift of God.

In other words, you are not the name and nothing you do in that name do you benefit except that you have not said, hey, I serve freely through this name because I can. Doing that and your energy flows from you freely and unconditionally, whereas, if as we have, did believe the name is our name and even said 'yes I am so and so', our energy flows from us but back to us = conditional. To receive from the system (thus binding/bonding yourself to it) you must identify yourself as the name or say it is 'my' name for the fact is you own nothing.  Everything, (property/assets/liabilities/income) are recorded under a legal name
which is not you and never can or will be. So in that sense our energy is flowing freely but the missing link is to say it is your desire to do so = unconditional giving, or love. Until you do it is presumed you use the name for personal benefit and gain, which, since God has given everything freely to us (men and women). So if it is your name, which it is if you say it is, thy will be accepted, then you attract the burden of ownership. I shall leave the rest for tonite.

Call in:

  1. Dial:
    (724) 444-7444
  2. Enter: 67575
    # (Call ID)
  3. Follow the prompts.

This is the first time we have used this call in and so if for some reason there are glitches that prevent the call we will reschedule asap.

One thing to bear in mind with regard to the pay it forward process is that Read the rest of this entry

Conference call

Hi all

This is to remind you that we are holding a conference call tomorrow evening, Dec 7th 9pm eastern time. Call # etc is posted at the blog site and was sent to everyone by email directly from me last week.

(724) 444-7444
ID # 67575

I am quite excited about the 'governing legislation' and the lack of authority in it to say that you are so and so. I sure hope you people have looked at your related birth legislation and got into this. Very powerful information folks that I would say for sure is part of you getting you out of the box/matrix.

People always identify another as so and so but guess what, that is a crock. You are only so and so when you accept being called so and so. There is no lawful authority to say you are but your silence is acceptance you are. All you have to know as the basis here is, maybe you were given a name but never were you named a name, therefore, you are not so and so the name is but, EVERYONE/AGENT WILL SAY AND HAS SAID YOU ARE SO AND SO.

From where do they get that authority? Us not knowing who we are and responding like good little names full of fear. The pay it forward thing has got nothing to do with fear response but the desire to do love, give freely of oneself. In that state one has nothing to loose. NOTHING but yet some fear loss. You cannot say I own nothing, am love, and fear loss.

Of course, you need to know who you are before any of that can help you; so when folks ask you are you so and so, I sure hope you know how to answer.

Only you can answer for you. For sure we will be going over that on the call.

As for the attachment sent yesterday 'To be a man', I notice there was some problem for people to receive it. I am not the sight administrator and cannot help you with such issues but direct you to the site administrator. I will be sending that doc to everyone via  bb(Replace this parenthesis with the @ sign) soonest possible.

I have an observation I wish to share. People fear paper, mail, and phone calls from the system. GET OVER IT.

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Hi all

The attachment, To-Be-a-Man, is a very good read whether you are new at this search to get out of the box/matrix or have been at it for a while.

I recommend it as a must read for everyone as it puts things in perspective very nicely.

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Conference call details


Here are the conference call details for the Dec 7th, 9pm eastern time call.

Call in:

  1. Dial: (724) 444-7444
  2. Enter: 67575 # (Call ID)
  3. Follow the prompts.

We will be discussing the 'governing legislation'. That is to say, from where do the agents get the authority to say you are so and so (a name) that they can attached debts etc attached to legal name to you.

Also, 'Paying it forward', love is the new currency.

I will share how I deal with court debts so you know that truth is accepted.




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In Sync


This was sent to me...

For those who are still on the fence; love is the way. It is what is real.

It is imperative I feel that we all, or as many as are ready and willing, get on the Love, pay it forward, bandwagon.

To do that we must let go of the earthly desires and fears. Tis then the things of this world are tools rather than owned.

The basis of reality is Love, free flowing energy. If one is not in harmony with that then one is out of tune/sync.

I know how hard it is for the mind to grasp this but that's the thing, the mind does not know true unconditional love. Love comes from the heart.

This is the leap of faith, to go where we have not been for a very long time. By that I mean, who and what we really are is in us but buried deep inside the programming we've received from this world. It has clouded the love we are from shining and the bigger truth from being seen.

The mind has not the answers to the questions it poses that race though the mind when one is trying to justify how love, paying it forward, fits into ones present circumstances or perceptions. This love is not something we are familiar with and thus the mind cannot draw on its memory banks for the answers. It is through mediation and prayer and going within that the knowing 'love is the way' is realized.

Where there is love, fear is not; but the mind is saying, ya but.

Where love is manifest there is no ya but.

The best way for me to say it is using a Read the rest of this entry

Supreme Court ruling


I received an email from one who received an email from another containing information about one of us being raided by CRA. The raid had nothing to do with paying it forward and I will not say any more than that.

On another note I read in the Ottawa Sun yesterday, the writer works for the Toronto Sun, of a Supreme Court ruling.

Page 27 of the Comment section, author is, Alan Shanoff. Article is titled; "Cops do not need warrant to look at your hydro bills".

The matter was concerning a charge of growing pot. The police suspected a grow op but had not enough grounds to request a warrant so they contacted the hydro company to get the account records. Upon receipt of that the police got a warrant. The question before the Supreme Court was in essence, did the police have the right to Read the rest of this entry

True Story


True story;

A man appears in Court. He does not consent to be the name appearing on the court papers which is derived of a birth registration.

The judge says, one way or another we are going to get jurisdiction.

Obviously when the judge said that he was saying we do not have jurisdiction.

The charges are dropped because they did not get jurisdiction. The reason according to the Crown, 'the man will not consent to be the name'.

Now in that case I am told they got the registration of birth document and birth certificate in evidence along with a copy of section 46 of the Vital Statistics Act (authorizing those documents as proof in Court) and a couple definitions of the word 'person'.

Now, it is my view upon hearing that, it hit me; we need to get the governing legislation in Read the rest of this entry

Emails that are undeliverable

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Pay it Forward conference call


This is to let you know that a conference call is scheduled for Tuesday December 7th at 9pm eastern time.

Call number etc will be sent sometime before that date. We have a new call in # and no one should be blocked out.

The call will be recorded and made available. Details will be given when known.

I send along an attachment from Read the rest of this entry

Role as trustee

Hello Vic, you conveyed that you were going away for a while, just break I am sure, but how does this trustee approach work if you are out of circulation? Tim


Good question Tim. Just because I am not at home base does not mean I am out of circulation. I shared that if anyone wants to contact me to send me an email. If one wants to talk by phone I will provide the number where I am at if not at home base. I take my role as trustee for paying it forward very seriously and do my best to be available at all times........ As for taking a break, like many seeking a way out of the box, the concept of taking a break is foreign.Like rust, we never sleep.

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